familiar with is he is hiding in a cave in the tribal areas, that he is surrounded by a large contingent of loyal fighters. but that narrative is pre9/11 understanding of osama bin laden, the second narrative is that he is living in a city, living in a city with multiple points of egress and entries, access to communications, so that he can keep in touch with the organization. you can't run a global network of interconnected cells from a cave. >> rose: jessica chastain for the hour, next. funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: additional funding provided by these funders. and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: jessica chastain has been everywhere and is everywhere, in 2011 she appeared in six movies, including the help, which she was no, ma'am made for an oscar. >> i can cook corn pone, boil potatoes, i can do grits. >> rose: she also appeared in the debt. >> where have you come from? >> argentina. >> really?